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You know where I think people get this idea.from watching TV evangelists. nitpick every instance of the supernatural or the gifts of the Nonethe less Chritian literally transliterated is Christ one or one of Christ Bill Johnsons ministry could not save her and she died. chas351.Thank you for your Jonathan Welton post. 2023 The Christian Broadcasting Network, Inc., A nonprofit 501 (c)(3) Charitable Organization. Regarding sending out new believers to heal people, I dont see the parallels to that in the New Testament. Torben himself said we NEVER feel anything, but didnt Jesus feel something when the power of God flowed from Him into the woman who had the issue of blood? Im honestly smiling about this; not offended one bit, though I do feel sorry for yall. Seems that every time the Lord does something through someone, that is when the enemy wants to come in and steal kill and destroy, that which He has done. When the Lord God does a work it is holy.and we should be in awe enough to not handle it with our hands of flesh and make an idol of it, much less glory in it. watchful, your message about running from the spot light is a good one. I saw a lady several weeks later who looked like this lady but because this lady was a normal size I thought it might be her sister . If we do that then we would start to veer off the road towards the ditch. The miracle spoke for itself. Not only that but it has Torbens website all over it which is loaded with written and video material to check out. Romans 6-8 2 Tim 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing, but unto all them also that love his appearing, Jonathan, you ask Where do you get your identity? Jonathan, as a born again believer in our risen Savour the Lord Jesus Christ I am identified with Christ and in Union with Him and I/we Christians are currently seated with Him in heavenly places (Eph). Lets all just accept each other on ONE BASIS ALONE- JESUS DEATH AND SPIRIT IN US- and lets all together just surrender and yield to His Holy Spirit in us and lets just each one do and speak whatever JESUS MOVES US TO DO AND SAY. At last this gives me hope I was beginning to think God had forgotten us who are ill = Yes, I always believed He heals today He just doesnt heal me No I wont let that effect me I love Jesus and always will and will always endeavour to follow Him as His Word says Trust and obey I will. He said it and that settles it. Teaching of every sort exists and is readily available online. 1.Repent(turn back) to the Father Many Christians will fall into deception because of this speaking in tongues phenomenon and the Spirit of Fire that accompanies speaking in tongues. Torben is actually seeing it work IN PRACTICE. Thank you Lord Jesus! My testimony might not mean allot, but i was abruptly set free from a 30year porn & lust addiction, by OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023 : Those who have reverence for the Lord live.. USA: 210 Democrats vote against bill requiring.. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023 . I think it is entirely possible that Holy Spirit may answer the prayers and heal the person involved as a means of authenticating the message of the Gospel. I think you are right Barry. totally normal part of everyday Christian life. Sondergaard claims to be an apostle and healer of the faith. There is a MIXTURE that has always been christianity. Very bad thing to lead off with. Repent (change the inner man to meet Gods will) and do the works you did previously [when first you knew the Lord], or else I will visit you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you change your mind and repent. Too PRE-OCCUPIED with the works of the devil. Here is a link to his youtube page:https://www.youtube.com/user/DanishEvangelist. He even said that it doesnt really work in the church and that it is easier to believe for someone to be healed that you are never going to see again. Torben dunks these people in trash cans how insulting!Those that defend this man, are his Cult Members and they have no problem threatening those that speak out against him. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section. Just a glimpse of God`s great work. Exd 16:10 KJV And it came to pass, as Aaron spake unto the whole congregation of the children of Israel, that they looked toward the wilderness, and, behold, the GLORY of the LORD APPEARED in the cloud. You see, people have been so in the habit of putting Jesus in a class by Himself that they have failed to recognize that He has made provision for the same living Spirit of God that dwelt in His own life, and of which He Himself was a living manifestation, to inhabit your being and mine, just as the Spirit inhabited the being of Jesus or Paul. Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his [other] flesh. Act 28:27 I pray that each persons eyes will be opened to Truly see Gods Kingdom, their ears opened so they can hear Holy Spirit and that their heart of stone will be taken out and they receive a new & soft heart of flesh, whereon Gods Law can be written. If a man comes performing miracles in Jesus name but preaches idols- money, ambition, love of the world and anything in the world money, sensuality, power or selfish ambition- THAT MAN IS A WOLF! this is new age worship of another false Jesus, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pvdl8HDmkA. And the reality is that it is warranted a lot so we cant afford to let down our guard. I am limiting my comments to the specific issue raised above of whether Bill Johnson believes in the Divinity of Christ which he does which makes him our brother in the Lord , I am not going there with respect to your previous question about your friend . Jesus often did. 1.Tom & Deborah, are you really saying that the baptism(Immersion) in water has no more power, does not form part of the Gospel & is worthless & can be disregarded completely? 3) to inspire reverence or godly fear or awe 1 Corinthians 10:1. forward into the True thing. Look at all the healings in the NT. Thank you to Andrew Strom also, I found your article regarding Bill Johnson that I can send to my friend. 3) to fear, reverence, honour, respect www.TheLastReformation.com Torben Sndergaard | Orlando FL Torben makes friends for himself and not for the Living Resurrected Lord of all. A bad tree CAN NOT bear good fruit nor can a good tree bear bad fruit. But, if they claim to be a Christians, and a leader, then people will follow them. This is Elijah against the the 450 prophets of baal. Moses was filled with UNBELIEF.Moses did not BELIEVE that God would do what He said He was going to do. Or, would he just rebuke the illness, and be on to the next person? In too many of these healing/prophetic schools I am seeing far to much mixture. LET HIS KINGDOM COME AND HIS WILL BE DONE IM HIS PEOPLE ON EARTH AS IT IS DONE IN HEAVEN!!! 38 And now I say to you, keep away from these men and let them alone; for if this plan or this work is of men, it will come to nothing; 39 but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow itlest you even be found to fight against God.. This was Torontos biggest probblem as far as Im concerned, I was there and saw it. Paul was always on guard for the church and admonishing and warning constantly with the help of the Holy Spirit, and with good reason. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. 2) to care for, look out for (a thing) It is the spirit of writing off Torben Sndergaard hijacks you on the spot, does a willy nilly prayer with you, lays hands on you in the street, or dunks you under water at a baptism, a demon manifests (but does not actually leave), and then he lays hands on you again and forces that Spirit of FIRE into you until you speak in tongues, which according toTorben Sndergaard proves you are now truly saved. All others are imitations as Scripture warns. Acknowledge means to yada/know Him intimately. He was confirmed in the state church after being immersed as a child, but actually completely out of habit. He loves those hungry believers. I found Jesus as MY SAVIOR in DEC. 1959 and remember then how God moved and we seen miracles that the young today question . For example of these : Jesus healing on the Sabbath, touching lepors, letting hookers wash his feet with their hair and speaking with Samaritan women ( all of hear were scandalous in His culture and no one with any cultural sensitivity would even dream of doing such things in that culture)- YET GOD SEEMED TO LOVE TO PICK A FIGHT WITH AND SCANDALIZE THE INSINCERE AND THE SKEPTIC! Rather than analyse Too many people are busy looking for signs and wonders and taking their eyes of off Jesus. I said, You got him? The Bible is replete with verses about this (some of which I pointed out in m previous post). Certainly going to a local village for instance and seeing the Elder of a village get healed dramatically by us, is going to get the attention of the whole village on God very quickly and allow the preaching of the word to follow without effort. The prophet Isaiah said, arise and let your light shine.. How do you know it was not the Lords followers who called each other Christian since the text doesnt say???) There may have been those that didnt respond in love and in a true biblical manner to honestly test the spirits, but to generalize anyone who didnt believe the video as true biblical healing as a cynic was wrong to do. Today is the day of salvation, work while it is yet day. Share on facebook. The presence of the Holy Spirit makes demons manifest..but if the demons dont come out but rather are allowed to have a field day, then it is the presence of another spirit and not the HOLY Spirit. All the false ministers being mentioned started out in simplicity with the spiritual gifts that they had been given. In all the videos, I dont see evidence in those being healed of being brought to repentance and an acknowledgement of Jesus as Lord. Or are these myths? They did every technique they knew and nothing worked. Exd 4:3 KJV And he said, Cast it on the ground. I think God likes what Im doing more than what you are NOT doing.. Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side. If you really believe it and are willing to stake your life on it why dont you say that? 1) to be fearful, be dreadful, be feared By its fruit you will know whether the tree is good or bad. No I dont regret calling it a sad reaction. And so, he just did what the bible said for him to do. We need to be discerning in love, yet remain true to Gods Word. They will walk into a childrens hospital and clear it out, even patients who had chemo for cancer will have their hair grow back. Just confuses people. Come on people! Always listen to the teaching and doctrine of the one doing the miracles first and second if you are able check out the fruit (lifestyle) of the one doing miracles. Does anyone have any information regarding the heresies of this area so that I may warn my friend? Praise God for men like Torben who have not been raised up in these schools for the prophetic. Jhn 17:11 NASB I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. 2 Thess. Yes, I do, but when I say I try to, that means in my mind that I realize that there will be times I will fail. Think of what was inside the arkthe tablets of stone written by the finger of Godmiraculously. This means we ALREADY HAVE THIS REVIVAL LIGHT OF JESUS IN US SHINING! Christs Kingdom is under the control of Jesus and all who are in it obey Him. Andrew JH thankyou for that good news update . You can be ashamed of that name if you want but I will gladly bear the reproach of that wonderful name any day! If there is one charlatan, then they rebuke all who perform wonders and healings in the Name of Jesus. If we start treating them as playthings and as idols, then we are as those trying to carry and play with fire with bare hands, and I have been a witness of this. Andrew J I have been very specific and clear about the problems I have with Bill Johnson. Thank you Andrew for this next follow up of Torben. 542. Jesus is 100% God but He also was and is and always will be a very easy and normal MAN and to live with. Jesus condemned the Pharisees not because they did not belong to His group, but because of their hypocrisy, untruthfulness and lack of love. Amen watchful that is exactly my hope and prayer.. . This video does a VERY poor job showing that these people are doing. In other words, you did not know the cause and effect of things, and thought you were doing it in your own power, not pointing people to Him. Seymour replied, Im just upset because you have the wooden leg on. this man has understanding of what it is all about, going to the needy.Groups of youth go out in Redding, Ca to pray for people. Jesus will outshine all when His servants take their proper place in the kingdom. The elitist claims to have personal relationships with God and to regularly receive divine visions. AUTHenticity= AUTHor, AUTHority It is all about Him and not of us at all. At once, the currents of holy power passed through my being, and I knew that it likewise passed through the one who was sick. Because they have slowly over time been taught and have become habituated to WIERDSVILLE !!!! And full gospel is exactly what you will see Torbens Last Reformation is all about as he takes bits and pieces from every so called Christian doctrine and mingles them together. 1 Peter 3:20. However, I watched the second video first. The Last Reformation . His Kinship (relational) was expressed epressed Matthew, His Heirship in Mark, His Mediatorship in Luke & His Judgeship in John. Watch this video about the people of God revealing the glory of God and you too will do the works of Jesus: http://youtu.be/03hWzOCzZ9k. I think he purposely included those leg lengthening healings to scandalize and expose the hearts of the skeptics. Thank you Roger for letting us know he`s OK. Tell him he is missed & know that God is with him. Multitudes of people have written to me expressing this. God said to the Apostles, and therefore also to us today Wait upon the Holy Spirit for the power from on high (for the HS unction) and then go out. Organizer Torben Sondergaard is the man promoting his "Big Tent Revival" events on social media. I recall witnessing two of the greatest miracles where Seymour was greatly used by God. Quail falling from the sky Exd 4:6 KJV And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And to go forward into the `true,` is to `know Christ more,` as the Apostle Paul & Roger, here, have encouraged us to do. Tragically, very few insights about his significant other are accessible on the internet. It's time we start obeying Jesus' words and make disciples of all nations. He also began the Jesus Center in Denmark, which trained disciples from 30 nations to spread this gospel message around the world. I knew it would not be wise to thus lay my hands upon the sick woman, as I was likely to jar her. It very well could be true, but the video itself leaves many questions unanswered. Sondergaard, as he prayed for the sick on the streets and in the In fact, OUR MANNA OUGHT TO BE FRESH EVERY MORNING as we progress in our relationship and understanding of Jesus Christ and His Kingdom. He may have started well, got saved and followed Jesus but he as well, like many others got deceived and now is leading thousands to destruction. They left for the U.S. with only what they could carry in 8 suitcases. See article on biblical explanation of. This video and your words have brought me to tears..tears of joy, excitement, and thanksgiving to Almighty God. Youve asked if I obey everything that Jesus tells me to do. The doctor in charge was an atheist and so outraged by it all that he destroyed the medical files and even the record of the man being admitted. Look at the FAITH shown in His Prayer of John 17. Yes. a brief video (above) where Torben discusses the amazing things that Ruining the faith of the faithful is most important to him. I dont see anyone in Wierdsville multiplying wine, walking on water, etc etc ( and whatever other miracles Lightning mentioned ) . Elijah prayed ONE SENTENCE and fire instantly fell from God. But I guess thats what powerless religion us all about. Sheriff's Office Openly Praises the Lord as Dozens of Inmates Get Baptized, Pledge Lives to Christ, Rabbi, Wife Sponsor Knesset Gathering to Focus Attention on the Widowed, Orphaned. Once again, you are putting water H2O on par with the blood of Jesus, and that, my friend is very, very dangerous. A Florida immigration judge has denied evangelist Torben Sndergaard's request for asylum. Amen Barry, the things I have encountered and seen are incredibly weird. Andrew Strom COMMENTS? Only God is holy and only God can and will do His holy works in and through us. You guys talk of not judging others, but then judge me as a skeptic. If I were to just watch the first video, I would definitely right Torben off as one more phony. In order to test the spirits, I am compelled to ask why in the hearings in this video, doesnt God use ones like He did in the NTthat are without question? Torben believes in taking new Discerning the World is an internet Christian Ministry based in Johannesburg South Africa. (John said no one can have anything unless God gives it to him Jn3:27), Isaiah Saldivar is doing the same thing today>, http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAwakening209. Everything was dependent on the Spirits uniting men to God through their faith. Even the promise od Jesus coming is questioned . INTERVIEW WITH DR. BROWN In early church for a season it was said of the Lords work which became so prevalent , This gospel is spreading to more and more people so that everyone in Asia Minor has heard about it and from that time forward the name of Jesus became greatly feared amoung all the poeple and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world and then the end will come.. `in His right hand He held 7 stars.`, This shows the executive activity of the enthroned Son of Man. 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