2 hour commute twice a week

2 hours is not normal but that doesnt really help you. by train: 1 hour with no transfers/switches They let us go when they got bored, without any harm, but its an experience I will NEVER forget. One selfish driver may add minutes to the commute of others to shave seconds off of their commute. I could sit and read, or knit, or work on my laptop, or talk to my seatmates on the train (I found a group and we sat together every day) and not worry about other drivers and insane traffic. Im 35 minutes away on public transit and consider that pretty great (Im walking distance from the station on this end and so is the office on the other end, so its around an hour door to door) but I have coworkers who commute at least 2 hours from Sacramento (by bus) or Gilroy (by train) and its not really out of the ordinary. This is it exactly. I already to yoga at 6 am every day (or bootcamp or whatever the other 6 am class is) but I really need to get home by 8 the latest to eat dinner and sleep. I live in North Hollywood and I have had jobs in both Brentwood and Venice, which was a 2 hour commute each way, and decided oh, NOT WORTH IT! There are so many freeways, and so many work areas nowhere near a freeway. Living in San Francisco has skewed so much my sense of whats expensive that my first reaction to you saying this was Only $2000?!. Even if I could have found housing, NO WAY was I willing to move there. Ouch, that sounds grim. Every time I get salty about our COL I remember that California is above and far beyond. I loved my one-hour, door-to-door commute when I took Metra (just under 1/2 mile walk from my house to metra and then a little more than 1/2 mile from Ogilvie to my office). Right now, I work from home, but the longest commute I can reasonably handle is 30 minutes. My husband and I are considering buying a house right now, and since we live in a city where walking is not common, our realtor seems bemused by the fact that we outright reject anything more than 2.5 miles from my office. Dear MBTA: Why does it take me an hour to get to Cambridge from a southern neighborhood in Boston, and this person from Providence can get there in 2 hours? Ps. I worked all week and basically slept all weekend because I was so exhausted. I live in a community that doesnt have a train or a commuter rail. I know that I absolutely could not stand sit behind the wheel of my sporty little 2 seater, inching ever slowly in traffic. My commute is roughly 3 hours round trip for 35 miles (one-way). Your company doesnt need someone who speaks fluent Russian or German do they? I used to commute for 2 hours each way each day, 5 days a week. I actually had a lecture about this in college. Try it a few times (in summer, when the days are marginally longer, and you have more daylight). Unfortunately, the OP chose to ignore the data that was given about the job. Life is too short. Peak hours? You also have a long day, on top of the commute. The boyfriend grew up there and told OP how it was. I think its worse now. And I managed a 45 minute driving commute for two and a half years, its not bad, but not ideal either, even with some sweet tunes in the car. Im sorry! I moved to Washington state for a bit in the early 90s, and I remember driving into Seattle with some friends of mind who warned me that wed be hitting rush hour traffic. Oops, I posted something else before I saw this. Now they spend 3 to 5 hours a day in their cars. They drive in early, do their gym time, and thus avoid traffic at its worst in the mornings. Ive ridden the train about a dozen times from LB up to downtown around 5ish (to go to Staples center) and its always been fine. THAT SAID, that doesnt mean you have to live with it. Makes sense if you receive more benefit on the other 6 days of the week. Seattle area traffic is horrific. But to alleviate his stress levels, its worth it to us to move to a location that will shorten and ease his commute. You *could* get an electric car with the carpool lane sticker and take it when youre rising solo, but Im pretty sure those expire this year. Its kind of improved my attitude toward it on most daysbut I still daydream of the days when Ill be able to kick back with a movie while my self-driving car does all the work :). I live in Southern California in a large 5 bed, 2 bath house with a HUGE backyard, and our rent is only $2200 a month! severe financial hardship) or I could work during the commute and cut down time at the office. My daughter is almost always the first at daycare, and last to leave. Which went on for well over a year on the stretch of road I was commuting on? Its pretty common there too, especially as a lot of people live in New Jersey, Connecticut, Long Island, etc. You get used to it. OMG I use to live in Vancouver, WA and would cross the I5 Bridge to work in Portland. Id just say that you should see if you can find a new job before you quit. Yeah, no, I would consider 2 hours each way to be completely unsustainable. This post gave my traumatic flashbacks. I just tell myself that it wasnt that bad, and it never was. Every. I lold! Now I commute 10 miles in 15 minutes, each way. Afternoon commute (between 3 and 6 pm) averages 55 minutes, and can go as long as 90. Going there was pretty much OK since it was later in the morning. Most of my coworkers that live on the North/South Shore of Boston commute around that far. If I were you I would make sure you keep the appropriate . I havent read the other comments but yup, Id say thats normal. I left NYC bc I was so sick of the city life struggle and giving 60% of my salary to rent. When I lived in Houston, my commute for 30 miles was about 45 minute-1 hour drive in the morning and 1.5 hour drive in the evening. I got stuck in palo alto on eastshore highway at 5pm once and spent an hour to go 5 mi. I cant afford that because I dont make that much. My commute is similar to Hannahs and yes, it is faster to cycle, so I do when the weather is good! Evening commute (after 6 pm) is actually a little faster average is 45 minutes, up to 70 minutes. My stomach and heart misses it so much. In Los Angeles if you cant bear a long commute you need a job that is very close to where you live and/or is the opposite direction than traffic. But what counts as the Bay Area is also constantly expanding to include farther flung cities in the Central Valley, North Bay, and South Bay. And, the closer we get to NYC, the more expensive housing becomes, even for a modest home. Everything that came up was an hour, maybe an hour and 15 which would be tolerable for me. Now driving, that's a different issue. Ultimately I think the question for you is not what's normal for your region, but what feels doable and sustainable for you in the long-term. I also live in LB, and I previously commuted to Culver City/Marina del Rey. Ugh. I live in the DC metro area so long commutes are just the reality of my existence. One accident in the wrong place and its another 2 hours stuck on the bus. Right now Im at about 45-50 minutes depending on metro waits. Short answer: No. I lived in Tokyo for years and 90 minutes-two hours is common but that is by train so you dont have to pay attention. I wanna go watch that episode now though, I never saw it when it was on. I would have left a merely very good job a couple of years ago. Take bus. Unfortunately there are none. I dont have young children and I have a framework at home that supports my doing this. One parent leaves for work earlier so he or she can leave work early enough to pick up the kid. Im sure youve gotten all the advice you need by now, but just one more for you: Ive lived in So Cal my whole life and would never entertain a commute that long. 2 hours is totally normal and expected for a trip like this in rush hour. Have you tested the 2 hours on google maps? For me it is just too much time to spend in a car every day, and OP at 2 hours each way even if everybody else is doing it I think you really have the right to feel that way too! Sports game at the stadiums where the bus has to pass adds another hour just to get out of town. Sometimes I would take the commuter bus into downtown, then hop on the Expo line to work. . Back then, there was very little traffic and I could do it in over an hour. The city was definitely designed with cars in mind and commuting by bike would be a nightmare. I lived in Northern California and the commutes were similarly awful. Experiment with routes and see if theres some alternatives that work for you. I started sending applications out last week (of course leaving this job off) and already have a few bites, so Im hopeful. One of my coworkers lives in Simi Valley and commutes to Pasadena daily. It is. Theres a radio sketch show That Mitchell and Webb Sound, his autobiography Back Story and a radio panel show called The Unbelievable Truth. I live in LB and there is a subway but it goes through all the not so great neighborhoods Ive taken it during the day before and would just not feel comfortable being on a train with shady folks this early in the morning (Im 51 and look super young despite being 30). I was a finalist for a job in the LA area a few years ago, and the advice I got from both friends as well as the internal recruiter was not to consider living anymore than 5mi from the office, unless I wanted to have a ridiculous commute. In the 1980s, my mother drove 45 miles to her job in Closest Big City. Books Are Our Superpower. I would love to be able to sleep or do my makeup or whatever beyond stressing over the traffic! If I drive, it takes 45 minutes or more. Some employees live in the next state because a beautiful house is cheaper there, but no jobs. They followed on one with a 3 hour commute one way! I drove, did public transport and frankly, I gave up and moved. When I first got this job, I was essentially going from one downtown to the other, which meant even if I left at 4:45, I wouldnt get home until 6:30. How will you get there and are you making enough for proper car maintenance. My commute is an hour and 10 minutes on average by bus, but I read a lot or nap. If this job allows you the finances/time to travel, do things you love then its something you have to take into account. Freeways and surface streets werent designed for the volume of vehicles on the road. We travel(led) a lot for work, and that kind of journey would be a routine length once per week in normal times. I stuck it out for around six years because the pay and benefits were good, but I hated it. Would kill me. Or if youre commuting from the Valley (Tracy/Manteca) to San Jose is from the central Alameda and CoCo County suburbs (Danville, San Ramon, Dublin/Livermore) to Silicon Valley. I have an hour commute for a contract job I just took and they were super concerned that I wouldnt take it because of that. Ive been running after aliens in 4-inch heels and Mulder just does not appreciate that as much as he should. Isnt the only person to answer this you? I make the most out of my commute today by listening to podcasts, and it doesnt bug me at all, but when I moved here from the Midwest (where I had a 7 minute commute), I absolutely *hated* my commute every day. If not, I would have a frank and awkward talk with your boss. If I take the subway (and there are no delays), my commute is about 35-40 minutes. I couldnt drive for 5 hours each day even if I didnt have to work too, and there was no traffic- and I *like* driving for fun! Tons of accidents that cause lane closures and rubbernecking? Yep; we discovered that the hard way last year while visiting my uncle in Palos Verdes. I am definitely looking for something closer and started shooting out my resume to 10 miles within LB, and got a few bites already. . Granted my commute is about an hour each way, but I spend none of that actually behind the wheel of a car so I could spend it doing any number of useful and/or interesting things so I dont mind it so much. This represents 3.6 percent of the national average annual salary, which is $40,690.". Someone mentioned Santa Monica above you would be hard pressed to find a 1-bedroom apartment for under $2000 a month. I did have a job with a two-hour each way commute once, but I only put up with it because one, no one else would hire me back then, two, it was temporary, and three, I didnt have too many reasons to hurry back home. 2-hour commutes are something we are used to and weve even experienced what we call carmageddon; wherein rush hour is like a huge parking lot and it took 4 friggin hours to get home (thats right! Also agree that driving would make it much less bearable. A 2 hour commute is normal in any big city. I commuted from the IE to West Hollywood for the first 2 years of my job out of college. My parents are the same waysmall city folk who come to visit in my mid-size city and are like, Do we HAVE to drive downtown? And when Im home they encourage me not to go places during rush hour, which equals just steady, moving traffic. Theres no bus/transit that does a straight line between home and work, so I either have to take one bus into downtown then switch to another to get to Soma, or take a bus downtown then walk 20 minutes. When I was in LA I found a job in Santa Monica and moved from Mid City to Venice based entirely on commute. Heres what got me through it: -Audiobooks and podcasts (you can get free books through Overdrive and Hoopla with your library card). I live six miles from my work, and it takes me fifty-five minutes by public transit (when its working on time, etc) and about an hour and fifteen by car. I live in the Atlanta suburbs. 2 hours is bad and I wouldnt call it normal. I have lived in LA and currently live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and a commute like that is normal here too. Its normal if you live in the Valley and work in West LA. Ive moved around quite a bit within my city with commutes ranging anywhere from 30 seconds (lived in the same building my office was in) to 45 minutes. I had a one hour commute (from a suburb to a rural area, through farmland, 55 mph the whole way, no trafficso, not terrible at all except for the time and the fact that I hate driving) and it was killing me. Everyone driving cars on huge highways is a very inefficient way to get masses of people to and from work, especially considering how bad human drivers are at efficiently using roads (I recommend that everyone watch CGPGeys video of traffic). I couldnt handle mentally OR physically. It would help if you had cruise control and/or an auto gearbox. Agreed. Bad day is about 15. Yeah, this is an interesting point. Best day scenario for a friend of mine is 1.5 hours Concord to downtown. When I lived in Seattle (suburbs!) The best to hope for in the car is audiobooks and podcasts. Now I commute 15 minutes to work but its a minimum of 90 minutes to get to a city of any size with anything interesting to do, even with no traffic. I would 100% ask about flex time, and if not granted, change jobs. Thoroughly agreed. I think if I were able to do public transportation, a longer commute would be more tolerable, but obviously not ideal. Its pretty easy to demonstrate that this isnt true just by reading this comments thread. But honestly, we cant figure out how to still live in NJ with under a 3-hour round trip commute. For me, my average commute is 45 minutes driving or 1 hour on public transit (and I wouldnt take a job thats over an hour commute w/o considering relocation too.). When I had a job in the San Fernando Valley the commute was fine because the traffic went in the opposite direction. Ive always thought it would be awesome to be able to walk to work! I did that for 6 weeks and It felt like 2 years. I always walk him before I leave and immediately when I get home. We had a store manager for a while that worked in Irvine and lived in Hemet (because thats the closest he could afford to buy a house), and spent at least six hours per day driving, sometimes more. Oh, I saw that you said it was Long Beach and working in WeHo. Even then I thought I had no time for anything outside of work! A good rule-of-thumb for LA is every 10 miles will take roughly 30-45 minutes of travel time. Its easier when LAUSD is on their various school breaks and also during the summer, but 2 hours to get 30 miles actually sounds normal and about right, depending on which freeways you have to take. I rent a house, and am SO grateful not to be the one that had to pay for repairs! Which is also within 30 miles of Bushwick. I knew it was bad, but to witness it, wow. If you are only going to have to do the journey twice a week, it's a no brainier if it means you can live in your preferred area. It would be impossible now. I live in NJ and commute into NYC and my commute is roughly two hours door to door. Ive just started my first office job - any dos and donts? THIS. Another option for the OP, if she is up for it I have some coworkers who have a membership at a gym close to work. It was a nightmare and I said I would NEVER do it again. DH and I also get dinner every night together, Im able to workout more and so is DH (since Im home earlier and can keep Tiny Human alive so he can go to the gym). I even have a part time job that is 6 minutes from my house in the opposite direction so on the nights that I leave one job and go straight to the other my commute is still less than 15 minutes. I think the longest commute anyone I know has had was my cousins husband who used to travel ~60 miles to and from work every day and spend over 3 hours each way. Yep. I feel bad for husband who has to do Kingston Bermondsey! The other day I had to leave at 4 p.m. to take my cat to the vet at (6:30 p.m.!) I could not commute an hour each way every day. Lots of people can handle that, but I cannot. Oh shit. Take subway. If I change jobs again, I probably wont accept anything less. But it is getting worse. What was the most outrageously unwarranted bollocking you After the Hy-un-dai, sorry I mean, Hyun-dai, fiasco, what Press J to jump to the feed. I paid more to live in the city partially for the ability to have a short commute and to walk to work. Also, I drive past a lot of farms that dont keep their birds penned in the summer. Two to three hours. They were flexible on start times but I always tried to shoot for 9:30 or earlier versus 10 because I wanted OUT. Obviously, the traffic in LA is even worse. Yes 30 miles is too far for a daily cycle commute. We all have to make decisions in life. The only faster routes are toll roads, and those add up. Hi, OP! I got my nails done once after work in the neighborhood and was still stuck in traffic for close to two hours. OP, two hours might be fine for some people and might not be unusual in your area, but if you are finding it frustrating then Id say go ahead and either move or look for work closer to home. I can prepare for the day or wind-down after. For reference that will easily take you from Tucson to Phoenix. I live in a city with ample pubic transit, but I prefer to drive. needs and desires, not really about whats normal. No need to do it all by one method. Leaving work it is a bit longer because my shuttle only runs every 30 minutes, so I usually have to wait a bit. That sounds like waaaaay too much time to me! And its even got the added bonus of freeing up the Pasadena parking lots because fewer people are leaving their cars there, theyre leaving them at the Azusa stop. Or alternatively, find another job with less of an arduous commute? Im in Minneapolis-St. Paul, and the commute can stretch into 90 minutes if youre going from one city to the other. If I were a person who minded, this would be a deal breaker. Our company used to be joined to an office in San Fran and some people there commuted AT LEAST 2 hours to work and back each day. Before I got my own place I was temporarily living with a friend in Long Beach and commuting to Van Nuys. OK, I realize this is coming at the end of a loooong thread, but this all simultaneously made me weirdly homesick (Bay Area native) AND thinking about The Californians sketch on SNL and how true it is, Get on the 405 and never come back, Steeeewarrrrt!. Both hubby and I had long commutes in our previous jobs, but within the last few years got jobs in new locations much closer to home with much better commutes. In NYC, for a long time I was a grad student spending 3-4 hours per day on public transit to get from my home in Brooklyn to my internship in Manhattan to my classes in Flushing and home again (I did not understand how spread out things were before moving there, otherwise I probably would have picked an apartment in Queens). My commute was anywhere from 45 minutes to 1 hr 30 mins. I dont think it necessarily was, though. On the road by 6AM Ive lived in SoCal for 48 years, born & raised here. Los Angeles is not only not really bike friendly, in fact it is quite a bit bike hostile. I lived in LA for almost 30 years, grew up there, learned to drive there. link to paper: https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2013/demo/SEHSD-WP2013-03.pdf. Also, I wonder, how long is your boyfriends commute? This is usually out of desperation or not grasping how the commute issues will effect you. I live in LB too. OP, depending on where youre living (sounds like maybe OC? So, the speed of travel you describe seems pretty normal for LA, but thats exactly why people dont live 30 miles from their workplace if they can help it! I moved recently (several blocks down the street) and joke about how my commute doubled from 4 minutes to 8 minutes. Also it is RIGHT at the juncture of two major freeways, and minutes from a bus/train depot. I have lots of friends who dont mind traffic and are willing to siting in it for 1-2 hours each way a day to work at jobs they love. My employers local office is in Seattle, and I used to live within walking distance. Some days when Im apartment hunting, Ill see listings like $1300/mo for a 500 sq ft studio apartment above a garage, no stove and its really demoralizing. If you find a job you really like, but with a long commute, then maybe your boyfriend should pick up and move to a new neighborhood with you. After some time living in this city, youll get more familiar with neighborhoods and traffic patterns, and youll be able to strategize how to cut that commute down either moving to a closer area to your work, taking a new job closer to your home, or adjusting your commute times to non-rush hours. Alternately, you could do the South Bay (San Pedro/Palos Verde/Torrence/Manhattan Beach). BUT I suppose the flip side is that for commuting 30 miles, it sounds about right. Do they theres a radio panel show called the Unbelievable Truth the car audiobooks! Go places during rush hour, which is $ 40,690. & quot ; IE West. If I could work during the commute can stretch into 90 minutes if youre going from one city the. That for commuting 30 miles is too far for a trip like this in rush hour transportation, longer... Make it much less bearable into NYC and my commute is about 35-40 minutes help you before you.!, a longer commute would be tolerable for me commuting to Van Nuys bike... 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