dickerson fly rod tapers

Modified Lyle Dickerson 6611 Dry-Fly Action: 6' 6" 3 or 4: 11/64: 2/2: P702: Ponds, creeks . One of these days I am going to get myself a DICKERSON! He can correct this if he is still hanging around. (Bret Reiter), I call this one a seven too. The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection It will be one of the rods in what I am calling my Basic Reference Taper set. But more relevant and to the point, I bought a single tip Dickerson 7613 from John and he recently provided me with a second tip from pre-embargo cane and original Dickerson hardware, and the action is a dead ringer for the original Dickerson 7613. 45 .212 under reel seat, The numbers listed below are from Banjos' rod, 0 .084 .238 0.334 I will add my 2 cents. Somehow the "D" was either left off by me in the original posting or was lost in translation to David's site. (Harry Boyd). Very similar to the 8013 action ( my favorite rod ) but in the 4w class, mission accomplished. (Mark Wendt), I checked the several places that I usually look for tapers and they all had the swell starting at 80". If you move it up to the mid section you might add a hinge that gets involved in the normal cast.. which is usually to be avoided. like .03%/inch. If you read this Bob, I would be interested to know how you choose your tip dimension and rise? by Morten 05/26/17 03:35, Post CSE made the ferrule for me. Harry Boyd ----------- Harry Boyd http://www.canerods.com maker@canerods.com Aransas.clarks Guide Posts: 301 My son likes the 7613 but he fishes mostly the bigger waters of the west and I'm thinking the 8013 would be a better rod for him. There are two Perfectionists on Hexrod. I always encourage customers to try before they buy. Contact us to learn more about how we can help! If you were to design rods using a visual representation of it's deflection then deviation from a straight line doesn't matter. Jim P. you have some great choices there. He was known for using only one or two strips from a culm, a time-consuming and expensive way to build rods. 0.278 No Question about it, John Pickard. The rod action will not resemble a straight line taper any longer. (Will Price), I have noticed several folks mention the Dickerson 8014. 1 wt 0.0540 3 months after I had the guy back on the phone asking me to make another one as its the best rod he has ever had. Very Good condition. The 7012 HB is super light, and can cast with the best of them. They tend to be slightly faster action than the classic designs on which they were based. For any thing else but roll casting or keeping a very finite weight of DT in the air, it's useless. 25 .160 .308 (Timothy Troester). Only lost 1/2 inch in rod length. (Pete Van Schaack), Has anyone made the Dickerson 8015 guide special at some time? Made 2 of the heavier one. Examples would be different techniques or methods used by restorationists and makers. Some people call them "step-down" but it is worth noting that the top and the bottom openings of his ferrules are usually the same diameter; the "step" across the ferrule occurred in the bamboo, not the metal. What you have done is show the slope to the tip to butt. Take a Garrison. Bamboo Tips - Tips Area Actually, your second post said what I was going to say, look at the graphs. From 80 to 85, there is an increase of ~.070. Here are the numbers someone else posted earlier this year for the Dickerson 8014 GS. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), I'm grateful to you for that point because a recent post referred to straight taper Garrisons and I wonder if he meant straight stress "curves". It's a two piece, 8 foot five weight. I own a Thramer 6611 and 7012 HB tapers, both with Thramer cosmetics and they are both awesome rods. I have always wondered why we don't just build linear tapers. Some good stuff here. (Robin Haywood). maybe someone else has one! There seems to be a misunderstanding about the results this yields. But all right is not a euphemism for excellent. (Lee Koch), I primarily use RodDNA for my taper selection. The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection Gift of . It's really funny that a True Arc turns out to be a parabolic taper (how drunk were those guys?). Perhaps it's a European thing to like fast action rods ? Lyle Dickerson Spurred into rodmaking by losing his job in the great depression, Lyle Dickerson would go on to become one of the masters of the craft. (Mark Dyba), Heh, nothing wrong with that. It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. (Steve Weiss), That's the rub isn't it? That is all I did! 7613: 7'6" 2/2 5 wt. Strong tip; butt has flex area from 45" to 80" then a butt swell at 80". Even then I wince about their roll casting deficiencies. 0.232 I'm probably going to have to find a use for one as it happens as a design for a 7'6'' #4 that is nearing ringing looks a bit beefy for a #4. .let's see; Winston rods are straight tapers, so are Powell's B series (his most popular), and Garrison's. I believe he told me he placed his roll casting hinge 10"-15" above the handle, depending on rod length. If you know something different about Dickerson's typical varnsh coat, make the appropriate adjustment. One of my favorite rods is a linear taper with a "slope" of .290/100". by FWdB 05/08/09 03:32, Post I could probably improve just by buying a new cheap file.. 0.232 (Tim Pembroke), I wasn't aware of that but now that I've been told it does make perfect sense. All he needed to do was speed up the butts, preferably with a concave taper form, and he would really have been cooking with gas! It is my belief that there are only seven truly different tapers available as a base to design rods from. But if you are just interested in a rod made on a Dickerson taper, then any number of qualified makers exist. So this spring I made the Dickerson 8014 Guide taper and prefer it for Lake Bass and larger bluegill. The following taper was taken from a varnished 8013. I would describe the rod action as very powerful, as you would expect from most Dickersons. Your statement that "if you want to make overweight rods with unnecessarily heavy tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver. Tel: 802-362-3300, Summer Its the old problem, everyone wants to tell us what they think the answer is, but they never want to tell us why in terms unequivocal and universal! (Will Price). by wefishcane 05/08/09 02:55, Post (John Channer). Dickerson 8015 Guide Special By Jim Schaaf, 2458 - 11. Solid construction of suitable solidity involved unattractive weight penalties. I deducted .005 for the varnish. 65 0.2565 0.078 (Larry Swearingen), Sorry about the double question, original question appeared lost in cyberspace. Springcreek, the 8013 you have listed. 35 0.1695 The varnish is in good condition. In case you didn't get the taper before, here it is: 0.066 0.241 Latterly, they considered that a fiberglass butt section would solve all their troubles. 761510: 7'6" 3/2 5 wt. 4070 Main Street, That's not a lot to ask is it? I have been working with Bob Norwood's taper program, using it to derive a basic set of reference tapers. Garrison's tapers may have been all right in his day, for the equipment and applications he was designing for, i.e. (Robin Haywood). Assuming this to be thus you have made adjustments so small that they are mostly below normal error, and if we allow a factor for variation in natural materials then the exercise becomes entirely futile except as an exercise in applied physics! (Greg Reeves), Something ain't quite right there. If you want a starting point then make the rate of taper 20 thousandths per inch and hollow build to 50 or 60% of original wall thickness. 5 .096 .244 0.266 I would agree that one system is not all encompassing and I agree with the selection of evaluating criteria you outlined. I cannot come up with an application for a 7'6''#5, with its inherent disadvantages for roll casting. The 1952 Dickerson is similar to the GW except it's a 5/6 wt. (Steve Weiss). All 5wt with identical terminal tip and butt dimensions. Summers Bamboo Fly Rods Company Vom Hofe Reels Young Winston Bob Summers has built and repaired quality bamboo fly rods since 1956. (Will McMurrey), A picture says a thousand words. Help from forum members would be welcomed. Dickerson 8014 Fred Bears Rod, 2606 -1. Manchester, VT 05254 It's the important half, too, the other one is less important than line weight, I refer you to the basic laws of aerodynamics, this post is already too long! (Robin Haywood). 42 .194 .066 (Max Satoh), Yep, the drop at the ferrule is .014 which should call for the use of a step down. This should cause some debate as a lot of our American cousins rave about this wimpy stick? Perhaps you can see why I think that a 1500 cane rod may be a bargain! This is one of those bio-feedback things you must be self taught IMHO. It throws up some very interesting facts. You simply have to then adjust the rate of change of the taper - the rise. 75 0.2855 I'll give you a bit of background on the question. (Nick Nasello), I made the Dickerson 8615 last year for lake bass and liked it but it does get to be a bit if a bear to cast after about 3 hours. This is a set of 13-14/64 step down ferrules. I have limited the list as practical to tapers which are not obviously taken from Hexrod.net, in RodDNA, or in contemporary books such as Howells, Gould or Mauer. I would go with Thramer. I understand your point, but you can see it is an arbitrary line in the sand. Just basic principles that have been around for years. In fact, I use the 7613 that I made a lot of the time, even while Hex fishing last week on the Manistee! The American Museum of Fly Fishing is the steward of the history, traditions, and practices of the sport of fly fishing and promotes the conservation of its waters. A straight taper may always lead to a more or less straight stress curve but it will only be flat if a lot of stars are in alignment. Dave Norling, Rush River Rods, makes a stepdown 13/12 ferrule, the only size stepdown that he offers , that works very well for this taper. The 1970 Dickerson has the same type tip as the 1952 except it has a very shallow flex in the upper butt and a faster swell into the butt, a 4/5 wt, faster rod. 'smoothed' tapers are a result of computer tapers and exhibit a poor understanding of how dickerson designed his tapers. The point here being, if we can define areas along the straight line or linier taper. ferrules, such as Mr. Youngs can be made to fit such a drop but the historical norm was to fit to the smaller diameter. This is the equivalent of a Powell B-8.70, a bit slower than the Powell B-9. Sold Out $4,050.00 Description Particulars For your consideration is a Lyle Dickerson model 8013 bamboo fly rod made in 1948. Inquiring solvent-afflicted minds want to know. If you add bamboo the the tip of the rod, you have changed its mass (MOI/MOE) relative to what it was. It you look at the 8013 it is a 5/6 wt with a tip that's a little stronger than the 7613's but not by much. 10 0.101 154505 You have a rod with a taper of approximately 0.0028 per inch. Because of subjective issues like feel and personal prejudices, not to mention fashion, we "adjust" this a bit in fishing rods. One of our most recognizable rod models with a deep flamed color and crisper action. .266@20 0.168 The 8013 is an 8' 0", 2/2, 5wt., 4.35 oz. Post I was contemplating a rod with a 3.5 ft tip section and interchangeable butt sections of maybe 2, 3 and 4 ft lengths. Standard Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1099 Custom Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1199 - $1399 I think I can reply for Dennis, as I was one of the guys who measured those rods. An 8014, would be an 8' two piece, with a size 14 ferrule amidships. I hope this helps you out some, they are actually all nice rods, but as I said there is a little different in line sizes. 90 0.329 40 .202 .375 That's so the swell is still in the action length. (John Channer), Well, the #13 Payne ferrules that I've mic'd had a female ferrule internal diameter of .203" and the step-down internal diameter of .1875". 30 .216 .099 0.206 0.214 If you want to adjust for a different varnish assumption, or if you want to interpolate differently, then our actual measurements are there for you (or anyone, of course) to do so. Made by Top Ten Tapers in Twinsburg, Ohio. Common sense tells me to leave the middle of the taper . It does not do anything to the action as most of the last 3 inches is inside the ferrule anyway. The biggest discrepancies are around the ferrules, and you'll notice in many "classic tapers" flattening of the slope into and out of the ferrules - presumably to make fitting a tapered peg into a cylindrical hole easier. Bamboo fly rod Dickerson 7012 taper 7ft 4wt 2/2. (Lowell Davis), The 8013 is definitely NOT a longer version of the 7613. A Powell B taper by definition is a straight taper. The line was a Scientific Angler's WF7 in their XXD (distance) format. 10 .110 .254 0.093 Besides, he's a fun guy to chat with about almost anything to do with fly fishing and the outdoors. a 3 1/2 wt - were that possible. In the local streams we suffer the length to enable some sort of roll cast, but use #4 or #3 lines. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive). The most interesting rods have a distinctive type of action, and a particular form and design, which is distinctive, and which seems to express a particular maker's vision. (four piece) carbon fiber spey blank. Dickerson 8014 8' 5wt. (Bob Norwood), That is kind of what I was thinking but if the rod is 7'6", that is 90". A significant part of that application are the prejudices of the person who is going to be using it. I assume that he extrapolated those measurements. I have modified these tapers to adjust them for what I think is a more modern feel. 35 0.162 166451 (Robin Haywood). (David Atchison), Didn't Dickerson make his own ferrules and weren't they slightly oversized? 0.369 As most of you already know Paul Young was notorious for having quite a few different tapers for the same model over the course of his career. Typically it is a heavy tip section combined with a light butt section. by JohnI 05/09/09 04:06, Post We now have solid parameters around which to modify, to refine rod design characteristics. (Al Baldauski). Part of the midwest cadre of noted builders, he built rods from the 1930's onward and was especially known for his fast two-piece rods. It seems that a Garrison-type taper with a straight, flat stress curve would be the most likely to be tolerable. The stepdown in the female is from a 14/64 ID where the ferrule goes over the bamboo to 12/64 ID where it accepts the male slide. I can add that there is not one single straight line taper for each line weight. I brought my recently acquired 861711D to Luray, Virginia to show/share with Chris at his rod shop open house some years ago. This gives a quick, accurate impression as to what type of taper the rod is made from (straight, parabolic, compound, etc.) There are actually at least four different versions of the 7613; two by Dickerson a 1952 and a 1970 model, one by Golden Witch and one by Todd Talsma. (Bob Norwood). Dickerson Rods. (Robin Haywood), I think you have missed the point completely, just how many straight tapers have you made and what are their tip and station values? The 6611 has a swelled butt unlike many versions I've seen and is an especially sweet rod. This is the second invitation to fish Michigan, and I thank you sincerely for it. So the data exists both ways in the spreadsheet. As Will predicts, this is a very pleasant and easy rod to cast. 0.248 In fact, as the requirements of a stream rod are very simple, this is what we do. I measured the rod after seeing David Ray's posting of an 861711 in his taper library that is accessed from Hexrod. Ephemera, empherma and Ephemerella.. Photos, paintings, written stories and talents. This means that the finished rod will cast like a ONE PIECE SLT rod. 15 .258 .144 It is, literally, the shape of the rod itself and determines how . (Chris Obuchowski). 25 .156 .310 They will not be using straight tapers, I'm afraid. An awful lot of fudging, especially as he could have made up tip rings quite easily. 0.369 3 wt 0.0638 50 0.203 148510 All measurements were taken over varnish. I have made quite a few Dickerson tapers. The slope of the taper of this rod is .014/5" or a B-8.4 (taking the average drop from 80" thru 0"). To all of them and their contemporaries we are grateful . Made several of them. It was a rod I hate. In the end I don't want to necessarily build a Dickerson 7613. About a week ago I was fishing the hex hatch on a certain small Wisconsin stream for the first time in many years, with a 7.5 ft 5wt, and actually wished I had a much shorter rod, given the overhanging trees. Point Dimension The hatch did not materialize and the fish did not rise, which gave me time to think of such things. (Paul Blakley), I think a 7'6'' rod is short for any line weight. The stepped down portion of the male is 2/64's smaller than the sleeve. (Jay Hake), Apparently Dickerson didn't think so. (Will Price). Don't you find short rods a problem on those splendid Yorkshire chalk streams? 0.320 I want to build a rod that does what a Dickerson 7613 does when casting and fished. Browse our collection of vintage fly boxes and wallets. In fact, I had great trouble casting the bloody thing. 0.369 Good luck. A rod from John is the next best thing to the real thing. Pickard makes nice rods for sure. (Chris Obuchowski). In reading my post the tone seems a little harsh. Dickerson 801611-D - 8ft 3pc 7wt Posted by Jeremy Gray, Aug 30, 2000. If you are building in the drop at the ferule that Dickerson used, you will usually end up using a size larger ferrule than you'd normally think. There are many ways to skin this cat. Step Down debate again. Design notes: Dennis Higham's 861711 found in David Ray's taper archive is also designated a 'D' model. Of course a SLT is never a SLT unless it's a one piece no Varnish & Guides rod, once we add things we change the effective taper. Although it takes only 3 sizes to make a given size ferrule, he may have made a specialty set. Sorry! Lyle Dickerson oft written about little powerhouse of a rod. (Lew) Parks. 0.205 Do any rod makers sells rods they do not like? (Robin Haywood). (Chris Obuchowski). A straight line taper could be arbitrary, but in this case it is very specific to line weight. I like Paynes too! I figure it will still be a good rod even if the swell won't be apparent to the eyes. 0 0.068 But nobody has a right to ask me to share it. I think the perfectionist is a fine taper and rod. I am sure that the step-downs are important in copying the taper design exactly. For those of you that have built this rod, does it flex into the beginning of the handle? If so, which would work best as an all-around rod for lakes/ponds and steelhead/salmon? To my knowledge there are at least 3 versions of the 7613 out there. Just looking for a taper that accommodates the step down ferrule nicely. (Mark Dyba), Okay, to continue the discussion, what are they, and why? As a rule I only make #5 rods (like Marinaro) and the bulk of these are less than 7'6". and .360@45. (David Zincavage), I wouldn't turn down a couple of each for crackers. (Greg Reeves), This version appears to me to take a step into account. 20 0.126 I noticed a couple of versions of this taper where the swell was moved out in front of the grip but all of the original 1970 versions show it differently. Varnish of 0.004 subtracted. They are very nice 5 weights ( IMHO it is THE 8 5 wt). Just give John a call and talk to him very nice guy with a lot of knowledge in Dickerson tapers. Besides that, he's extremely knowledgeable about Dickerson, is the present owner of the Dickerson rod shop, and has an extreme reverence for Lyle's creations and tapers. I would say it's a strong 7 wt, but it should work well with a 8 WF. DICKERSON 8013 RBS Special - 8' 2/2 - 5wt- honey colored - the legendary 8013 Special is an impressive and powerful med/fast action all-round trout -- taper miked from a Ray Bergman original shop rod. For my money I can think of a couple of rods I like better than anything Dickerson made. Click Here for Rod Raffle, Great Brown, Rainbow and Cutthroat Fly Fishing. 0.102 0.111 F E Thomas. I have fished some pretty big water with this rod and it has served me very well. Fast Dickerson 7613 - 7'6" 2pc $239.00 + $24.95 shipping (2) Vintage HEDDON PAL Casting Rods - #6277 Wormer 5'6"+ #6273 Musky Special 5' . If you are designing a rod based on a linear taper and you want to make it a 3 or 4 piece instead of a 2, how would this be taken into account? This board is for discussing the repair and restoration of bamboo fly rods, makers discussion and construction techniques relating to same. by mosquito 05/08/09 09:33, Post You are correct, this is just a way of evaluating the effects of adding or subtracting material from different areas along a rods length. It didn't make since to me but went ahead and planed the butt section the way it was listed. by Mike McGuire 06/16/16 23:29, Post 30 0.151 166917 Pt Butt Tip (Robin Haywood). I have a tough time roll casting over about 65' with any rod, no matter how long or limber. 0.160 (four piece) carbon fiber fly rod blank $85.00 13' 7/8wt. I hope this is for step down ferrule. Variations below this point have more to do with the character of the rod than the line weight. Regarding Chris Bogart's Dickerson. According to Hoagy Carmichael Jr. who filmed a documentary for Boston Public TV, the Payne Rod Co. made approximately 12,000 rods during it's existence. Halstead. If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. The action, for those who are more familiar fishing graphite rods, is quite easy to get used to. As we all know, rods can often cast line weights one up and down from their designated ones. Don't leave us hangin' here with a sniper shot and leave ;-) (Mark Wendt), Truth be known, I prefer Payne to Dickerson. There should be 20 measurements not 19. I personally have never been able to use them to describe the characteristics of a taper. Whether Dickerson tweaked them to suit individuals or not I can't say. by ShenRods 05/08/09 01:54, Post If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. But all you have done is show the straight line taper for between two dimensions. It is quite different that the Garrison math method. Over the time I have made rods. Though the course may change sometimes, rivers always reach the sea. I have made several and all have been well received. Measure over original varnish. Size 14 ferrule amidships Arc turns out to be tolerable 7ft 4wt 2/2 graphite rods, is different. ' model had great trouble casting the bloody thing say, look at the.! Specialty set down from their designated ones measured the rod after seeing David Ray 's posting of an in! Especially as he could have made a specialty set & quot ; 2/2 5 wt ) not using... With unnecessarily heavy Tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver, mission accomplished # 5, a. 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